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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm ..... this is interesting .....

https://www.moto-abruzzo.net/aprilia-caponord-rally-raid/accessories/caponordfutura-dashboard-hybrid-franken-capo-lives/

.... and this .....

https://www.moto-abruzzo.net/2017/no1-component-that-fails-on-a-dashboard/

.... and this .....

https://www.moto-abruzzo.net/repaired/

.... and this .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsUnZxsY_L4

.... and this from AF1 with pics of split bearing and encoder ring ....

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?224436-Holy-King-Bearing-Batman!/page3
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-Rider wrote:
fatboy wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
I have a spare. So I'm sorted.


..... you can really go off people

TBH the concern over the lack of a spare king bearing is the biggest thing stopping me spending much on improving the Fut.
That doesn't mean I have no plans but I worry that it'll all go pear-shaped if the bearing gives up.

Perhaps you need to cast your nets further than our bonny shores.
Are Futs popular in the good ol' US of A ?
All the parts are available over there for the home mechanic to repair a Falc water pump but alas over here you can buy the parts but need access to an engineering shop to assemble the parts

I have been looking worldwide .... and I do know where there is one.
Ridiculous price but may be that I need to dig very deep.
Need to work out how to avoid import duty at very least.


Drop the bike off Andy.
I can strip/Grease/Re assemble the king bearing for you?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blinkey501 wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
fatboy wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
I have a spare. So I'm sorted.


..... you can really go off people

TBH the concern over the lack of a spare king bearing is the biggest thing stopping me spending much on improving the Fut.
That doesn't mean I have no plans but I worry that it'll all go pear-shaped if the bearing gives up.

Perhaps you need to cast your nets further than our bonny shores.
Are Futs popular in the good ol' US of A ?
All the parts are available over there for the home mechanic to repair a Falc water pump but alas over here you can buy the parts but need access to an engineering shop to assemble the parts

I have been looking worldwide .... and I do know where there is one.
Ridiculous price but may be that I need to dig very deep.
Need to work out how to avoid import duty at very least.


Drop the bike off Andy.
I can strip/Grease/Re assemble the king bearing for you?

Cheers Jay - very kind offer but I'll get round to going over these things in due course.
Just about to have a new garage/workshop built - so that'll make maintenance easier.
I think the Fut is going to have to be SORNed for a couple of months anyway.
I've hit the same problem with you re insurance - the company deciding to move out of the bike market and the £50 cover for the second bike disappearing. Current best quote for it is 5 times that - I guess that's because I only have 1 year NCD on that one as I only bought it last year.
I'm thinking I'll have to wait until the Autumn when the Falco insurance comes up and use the max NCD on that one to start a new multibike insurance for both.
It's a right con the way they tie NCD to one bike and I'm supposedly such a higher risk to them on the Fut than the Falco.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that's a blow.

The King Bearing I've been watching has gone up in price today ..... now over £200 MORE than yesterday.

It was more expensive than I wanted to pay before .... which is why I was umm-ing and ah-ing ..... £200 price-hike kills it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Believe someone somewhere used to say
'he who hesitates is lost'.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

old git wrote:
Believe someone somewhere used to say
'he who hesitates is lost'.


Yeah but there is the ancient saying that goes:

"He who spends 25% of what they paid for the bike on a single bearing for which they have no immediate need, is a braver and more wealthy man than me"

Sadly that 25% has now become 37.5% .......
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-Rider wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
fatboy wrote:
D-Rider wrote:
blinkey501 wrote:
I have a spare. So I'm sorted.


..... you can really go off people

TBH the concern over the lack of a spare king bearing is the biggest thing stopping me spending much on improving the Fut.
That doesn't mean I have no plans but I worry that it'll all go pear-shaped if the bearing gives up.

Perhaps you need to cast your nets further than our bonny shores.
Are Futs popular in the good ol' US of A ?
All the parts are available over there for the home mechanic to repair a Falc water pump but alas over here you can buy the parts but need access to an engineering shop to assemble the parts

I have been looking worldwide .... and I do know where there is one.
Ridiculous price but may be that I need to dig very deep.
Need to work out how to avoid import duty at very least.


Drop the bike off Andy.
I can strip/Grease/Re assemble the king bearing for you?

Cheers Jay - very kind offer but I'll get round to going over these things in due course.
Just about to have a new garage/workshop built - so that'll make maintenance easier.
I think the Fut is going to have to be SORNed for a couple of months anyway.
I've hit the same problem with you re insurance - the company deciding to move out of the bike market and the £50 cover for the second bike disappearing. Current best quote for it is 5 times that - I guess that's because I only have 1 year NCD on that one as I only bought it last year.
I'm thinking I'll have to wait until the Autumn when the Falco insurance comes up and use the max NCD on that one to start a new multibike insurance for both.
It's a right con the way they tie NCD to one bike and I'm supposedly such a higher risk to them on the Fut than the Falco.


Ive used Bemoto as an alternative Andy. They do multibike policies.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jay.

I'll be looking for multibike when the Falco comes up - that's the one with the max NCD
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well time moves on and things start to resolve themselves:

D-Rider wrote:

I've hit the same problem with you re insurance - the company deciding to move out of the bike market and the £50 cover for the second bike disappearing. Current best quote for it is 5 times that - I guess that's because I only have 1 year NCD on that one as I only bought it last year.
I'm thinking I'll have to wait until the Autumn when the Falco insurance comes up and use the max NCD on that one to start a new multibike insurance for both.
It's a right con the way they tie NCD to one bike and I'm supposedly such a higher risk to them on the Fut than the Falco.


I found a better quote .... still 3 times what I paid last year but I'll cash it in in the autumn when I can start a new multibike policy using the Falco's maximum NCD ..... so the Futura is still on the road.

D-Rider wrote:
Well that's a blow.

The King Bearing I've been watching has gone up in price today ..... now over £200 MORE than yesterday.

It was more expensive than I wanted to pay before .... which is why I was umm-ing and ah-ing ..... £200 price-hike kills it.


The £200 price hike went away .... and also the exchange rate improved a bit - so I decided to buy it while I could .... a bit of an investment / insurance policy.
I am now the owner of a King Bearing.

So:
D-Rider wrote:
Ridiculous price but may be that I need to dig very deep.

Tick ! .... dug deep but not as deep as I thought I would have to

D-Rider wrote:

Need to work out how to avoid import duty at very least.

Tick ! ..... and shipping too

There's going to be a bit of a wait 'till I get it in my grubby hands but all good
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-Rider wrote:
Well time moves on and things start to resolve themselves:

D-Rider wrote:

I've hit the same problem with you re insurance - the company deciding to move out of the bike market and the £50 cover for the second bike disappearing. Current best quote for it is 5 times that - I guess that's because I only have 1 year NCD on that one as I only bought it last year.
I'm thinking I'll have to wait until the Autumn when the Falco insurance comes up and use the max NCD on that one to start a new multibike insurance for both.
It's a right con the way they tie NCD to one bike and I'm supposedly such a higher risk to them on the Fut than the Falco.


I found a better quote .... still 3 times what I paid last year but I'll cash it in in the autumn when I can start a new multibike policy using the Falco's maximum NCD ..... so the Futura is still on the road.

D-Rider wrote:
Well that's a blow.

The King Bearing I've been watching has gone up in price today ..... now over £200 MORE than yesterday.

It was more expensive than I wanted to pay before .... which is why I was umm-ing and ah-ing ..... £200 price-hike kills it.


The £200 price hike went away .... and also the exchange rate improved a bit - so I decided to buy it while I could .... a bit of an investment / insurance policy.
I am now the owner of a King Bearing.

So:
D-Rider wrote:
Ridiculous price but may be that I need to dig very deep.

Tick ! .... dug deep but not as deep as I thought I would have to

D-Rider wrote:

Need to work out how to avoid import duty at very least.

Tick ! ..... and shipping too

There's going to be a bit of a wait 'till I get it in my grubby hands but all good


I looked at buying an exhaust for one of the bikes from the US.

The import duty adds insult to injury. It's not good.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I looked at buying an exhaust for one of the bikes from the US.

The import duty adds insult to injury. It's not good.


An exhaust would be too big ..... but a little bearing in luggage
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-Rider wrote:
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I looked at buying an exhaust for one of the bikes from the US.

The import duty adds insult to injury. It's not good.


An exhaust would be too big ..... but a little bearing in luggage


True.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brought back 4 pistons, rings and gudgeon pins, a starter motor, electronic ignition kit, high performance coil, core plugs, gaskets and other sundries for my Lancia Beta in my hand luggage last time I returned from the US. US customs had inspected some of the items, but I went through UK customs without any problems.

Some years ago I brought a Pioneer DJ Mixer back from Singapore and saved about a third of the UK purchase price. Definitely worth a punt.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: The last king bearing? Reply with quote

KitchenSync wrote:
........ He told me to look after my king bearing as he just sold the last one! Not sure if he meant THE last one... but he's like Indian Jones for finding obsolete parts so you can be pretty sure there aren't many out there any more.


I'm pretty sure it was his last one rather than the last one.

I bought one last week from AF1 last week. After that, their live stock status showed none in stock and it would take 6-8 weeks (or something like that) to re order.
That has since been updated to show "Special Order: Arrives at our Warehouse in 5-7 Business Days"

So it looks as though they are still available .... at a price.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the futura measure the speed from the rear wheel bolts like the falco?
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